I mean, remet him because it had been four or five years since I went out to college. I had no contact with him. And the biology class from Earlham College wanted me to guide them through Florida. And I was down in Albany, Georgia on the plantation. So the whole biology class came by, and I took them for a tour through the Okefenokee and down to Florida. And I stopped at Ocala, Florida to see Silver Springs and show him that. And I heard about this guy who had a farm, a little rural area near Ocala and had a lot of animals. Well, it turned out to be my mentor from Maryland named John Hamlet.
