That was an hour documentary. I started doing some documentaries, but it gave me a chance to perfect my ability as a producer, director and to pick some programs that I thought were really important. And I didn’t make much money. I was still living in New York on a fairly low salary, but I was with some exciting people in the film world and also in the world of advertising. I went with a guy named Steve Frankard who had been head of Young & Rubicam. And he had the vision of understanding that we could do some things together. Somethings together.
