And when I started going on location, I often was able to work as a director as well as being on camera. That’s a little hard to do. Marlin by the way, he was on camera, but Marlin didn’t necessarily get involved in the format of the show or what we should be doing. I opened my big mouth probably a little too often because I had a lot of interest in the format of the show and what makes good television. And I could recommend that if we did this, that or the other while we were in Africa, we might do five or six programs in Africa over a month and a half period. We would try to pick several shows if we went to a far off place like that. And I can say that I had something to do with that, because by that time I knew pretty well what was good television what wasn’t. Don Meier was very, very good from a financial standpoint.
