And of course he had that look that was recognizable. His rather astute white hair, et cetera. She said to me, when I got back from Africa, she said, “Jim, you really ought to get tied “in with Marlin Perkins.” I hadn’t thought about that much before that, but she was the one that saw that my life it might be something he was interested in. So I ended up doing the pilot film. It took about a year for that pilot film to find a sponsor. Marlin and Don Meier used to go around the country talking to different potential sponsors and, (laughs) bless their heart. Quaker Oats was in the running for a long time. Looked like we were gonna be sponsored by Quaker Oats.
