And he wanted… They wanted me to fly the eagle, the harpy, which was wild caught. It was an adult and they wanted to do the story. The first show for Wild Kingdom was named “Attack and Defense”, which is even then television, you know, like the dramatic part of the natural world. So that was a logical story. Don Meier, who was a producer, was very, very skilled and very smart and trying to film something that had enough action so that the television stations would love it or sponsor. So I was flying the big harpy eagle in Lincoln Park with a light line attached to it. I didn’t want anything to happen because a monkey eating eagle flying around Chicago in those days looking into baby carriages might have been problematic.