And I was doing major farm work at age 12, I would go out and mow hay all day long. I learned actually to drive an old pickup truck when I was about eight years old, I had to put blocks on the pedals of the car. So I just don’t even remember when I couldn’t drive one way or another. So wonderful experiences. We lived on a dirt road for many years, rode a bus to school in a little town called Draper, Utah. That was elementary school and junior high school. Later on I went to a high school in Sandy, Utah called Jordan High School. This was toward the end of World War II, it’s during World War II, actually, and we were in a situation where I felt that I needed to prepare to go into the service.