When I started the university, I admired the people that were my professors, and people that I worked with. And I had had some experience in my church of doing some teaching. And so I enjoyed teaching and I decided I want to become a teacher. And so an opportunity arose where there was an opening for a horse surgeon at the university of California, at Davis, in the veterinary school there. And I applied and was accepted. And that’s how I got into university situation, but it was 10 or 12 years later before I started working with wild animals.