And we were all over Southern California dealing with horses so that I got a pretty good foundation there. I got to know certain people like Gene Autry. In fact, I had known Gene Autry because I knew I wanted to come to California, and he was giving a performance actually in Des Moines, Iowa. And I went to that and went behind the scenes and met him there, and he invited me to visit him in the San Fernando valley. And so he and Roy Rogers and Dale Robertson and Montie Montana became a good friend of mine. Montie Montana is a roper, trick roper. And I would actually go to his performances on the weekends and kind of help him manage his horses. And I had somewhat thought, I’d like to be a roper, in fact, I had done some calf roping while I was in college and I learned how to trick rope, in fact, I was a performer in a rodeo that I and a friend managed in the school at that time.
