And actually Patricia O’Connor, who is a well-known person at Staten Island and other places, I don’t know you remember her or not, but she is… She does a lot by producing a bibliography of mammals and birds in the early 1950s. That was a seminal publication, and yet it wasn’t all accessible to many zoo veterinarians. So the German publication and zoo wild animal medicine and subsequent monographs on certain species of animals and continued additions of zoo and wild animal medicine. And these books or another milestone. And they’re used all over the world. I can go to a zoo and one of the first things that the zoo veterinarians will do, will pull these books off the shelf and say, “This is my Bible.” And that is a source of pride, not because the zoo and wild animal medicine, wasn’t all authored by me, it’s an edited publication that have a lot of people inputting it. And we were talking about Eddie Oliver- Eddie Almodovar.
