Oh yeah, swaps. Actually when I was in practice, we did all kinds of things, and when I was at the university, we were aware of all of the big mucky mucks in the entertainment industry. And I have tickets to any of the big shows there because the owners were often a race horse people. And so Rex Ellsworth who had swaps, was an uncle of one of our students there, Casey Ellsworth. So I knew them, and I was approached, or wasn’t approached, I was actually coerced into doing surgery on a horse that was a high stakes foal that was born with a hernia. And I fixed that hernia and the owner was there and he said, “Have you ever done this before?” And I, without question said, yes, I didn’t tell him it was in a student surgery lab. But the thing is that horse went on to be a good horse, we hadn’t castrated, but we had fixed that hernia and close the inguinal canal so that the testicle didn’t descend. And so it meant that that animal essentially became a dangerous animal because those kinds of cryptorchid animals usually are.
