But oftentimes I was the anesthetist and the surgeon on the things that I did. I had some graduate students that started working with some of these drugs. Then the things like a Rompun or Xylazine came on the scene, we used these, we gained some experiences. We shared experiences at zoo meetings with these drugs. We’ve talked about our successes, our failures, and we all learned together. There was no precedent for this, we simply gained the experiences. And I guess the one thing that I was able to do or did do was to write about it. And there are some things that I wrote about that I didn’t really know as much as I thought I did, and subsequent experiences by other people found out that I was off misguided.