Absolutely, I had to, I was shamed into it by my children who like snakes. And as a result of my own phobia, I knew that I was going to have to make sure that my children didn’t experience the same thing. Because I don’t believe you’re born with a fear of snakes, I believe it’s a learned response. And so all of my children handled snakes. I’ve got pictures subsequently of my small children playing on the lawn with a boa, I’ve watched them all the time because some of them were pretty good sized. But I have one picture of a daughter with a snake that’s touching its tongue to her nose. And they would take snakes to show and tell. I never handled them at that point in time, but finally I was shamed into learning how to handle them.