That was a little bit beyond me at that point in time, and I called the pediatric surgeon in the medical school and I called and talked to his secretary and she said, “Oh, he’s much too busy to talk to you about this.” And I said, “Well, giving the message, I’d like to talk to him and get some thoughts about the sort of thing, because I like him to be involved in the surgery.” And she said, “Oh no, can’t, he just doesn’t have time.” So we’ll just give him the message within five minutes, he was calling back and he said, when did we do it?
