Can’t say that I remember when I felt that connection, we had farm animals, we had dogs and cats, we had poultry, in fact, we had chickens as one of the major products that we had. We raised turkeys for a period of time. And so I just essentially grew up with animals. I had a respect for them, I sometimes swore at them. In fact, I developed a bad habit of swearing that I had to overcome actually when I went into the Navy. But animals can be very exasperating, but it was also a source of enjoyment with the horses, I had several ones, I started working with the draft horses early on. And when I was asked to attend a meeting in Columbia, Missouri, the veterinary school there, they decided that they wanted to take me for a ride with their mascots, which happened to be a team of mules.