I don’t do drugs. I just liked to watch the leaf cutter. I’m fascinated by creatures in the ocean, but elephants are, whether we like it or not, an icon species. I don’t care what you say. The panda is. Certain animals, I’m sorry to say, the koala, they’re icon species. And yes, we try to all have them and work with them and have them in our zoos. Some people can afford it. Some people can’t. Some people put them in on breeding loans. I used to agree, sisagree. I must tell you, back in the 80s when they tried to come and get some of our gorillas and do that.
