Yes he did. Because he was inquisitive, he never knew anything about animals. You know, he just, he was that way. I even hosted his show twice myself, with once with Betty White and Tippi Hedren, you know, she had that reserve as you know, I think Melanie Griffin’s mom. And then also I think of the third person, I did three of them. Oh yeah, Tippi Hedren, Betty White. Anyway. So we, the three of them, we did the show with several times.