Maybe when it started really growing about 15 years ago. That lady is incredible. We took her away from Honda. I go in there and she’ll, I even, I haven’t seen Kate, let’s say I’m filming for three or four weeks. I don’t go to the office. I’ll run right in her office and spend 15 minutes or an hour in there. Tell me what’s happening in the zoo. I wanna know what’s happening with employees, I wanna know what’s happening, people are excited or happy.
