So I, I don’t, to this day, you know, the one thing is very important. Whoever’s watching this by the way. It’s what I learned from John Galbreath, the owner of Pittsburgh Pirates that lived here, big, huge family company, whatever. I went to him at 80-something years old, that was after I saw Mr. Mack. I went there to tell him about what I envisioned for our African and other animals. He looked at me ’cause he gave to Mel Dodge, who was like my dad, who was Director of Parks and Recreation. This is who was on the Sewers and Drains Department when I got here, Sewers and Drains uniforms. So I went to see Mr. Galbreath.
