There used to be professional hunters going through Arizona, California and west Texas to collect like the Blair’s milk snake and the Arizona mountain king. There’s less financial attraction there because the captive bred are cheaper than the cost of going out and collecting. So I think it’s added to the conservation of the habitat, preservation of habitat. There’s not so many professional collectors turning over every log and every rock and disturbing the habitat. Now we’ll jump a little ahead, but you’ve opened up the subject here. When you were at the zoo and as you progressed and became director, animal dealers were still selling animals to zoos. Today, there are very few, if any established animal dealers.
