When we hosted that AZA conferences durin’ 9/11, I was really excited about a panel I put together. I had Peter Raven who’s the director of the Missouri Botanical Garden and a worldwide recognized botanist, scientist. Bill Conway who was one of the most eloquent representatives we have from the zoo profession. I had these two to sit and have a two-way dialogue on the scientific aspects of zoos and botanical gardens and how they may fit in the world of the future. Unfortunately, that dialogue didn’t take place because of 9/11. I hadn’t heard it. I didn’t have the radio on. And that morning, I got a call from Kris Viers and said, “What are you going to do?” I said, “What are you gonna do about what?” She says, “You haven’t had the TV on?” I said, “No.” She says, “Come down to the lobby.” I came down to the lobby, the TV was on and the World Trade session was inflamed.