I had a lot of opportunity to travel. My first opportunity to travel was actually at the invitation of Bob Dooley who was the assistant director of the Houston Zoo and Jim Doherty from the Bronx Zoo, curator of mammals. We went to Mexico to collect vampire bats and we had to get the necessary federal permits to bring these vampire bats into the United States and also bring ’em to our respective zoos. And we went down to a cave about 300 miles south of Brownsville and collected the bats and brought ’em back. And then I borrowed my wife’s overnight bag to fly my clothes down there. We decided I got 12 bats outta the collection. Jim Doherty I think got about 20. Houston Zoo got about 20.