And emphasis also people who have not only a degree but some experience. And a lot of ’em come in having had an internship or working experience with some animal collection somewhere. And those are the ones that have the most going for ’em. After all, there are only 350 employees at the zoo. Only a fraction of them are keepers. There are a lot more people graduating from college than there are opportunities for employment. So the opportunities to advance are probably a lot slimmer today than they were in my time. But I think the most patient and persevering can still be successful if they keep tryin’.