I would bring a lotta snakes back and bring ’em on my front porch and have all the kids in the neighborhood, I’d give ’em demonstrations. Because most of the kids hated snakes, were afraid of ’em and I was always tryin’ to improve the snakes’ reputation, so I’d be tellin’ ’em all about the snakes and trying to get them to touch it. It was just sort of a hobby growing up as a child on. And then in high school at 13 years old, I graduated from grade school and I took freshmen biology and I caught a snake down at the lots near the river Bluffs. I wasn’t sure what kind it was. So I took the snake to school, took it to my biology class and I went up to the teacher Mr. White. I have a snake. I’m not sure what kind it is.