Well since I came up through the ranks, most of the people or the staff knew me when I was nothing. And so I was nice to the people that I went up through the ranks with. I shared as much as I could of my benefits. I shared with my staff. I made sure that all my staff got active at AZA goin’ to zoo conferences. I shared my staff in a travel program. I not only led safaris, all my curators led safaris. So they had a great deal of opportunity to improve themselves professionally at the same time.
