I learned that from Marlin and I think Marlon wanted to create a team because he wanted to be able to run the zoo. He also wanted to be able to go away and do Wild Kingdom. He could only do that if he had a responsible team. But I think that was good zoo management and I think I followed that pattern by developing staff and having the staff run the zoo. And also enhancing the collection in every way, having good breeding programs in place and being professionally. I made sure that every curator was a member in the zoo. I made sure we paid the membership in the national organization for every curator. That was part of their job specification.