As I was deputy director and director during that time. It happened a little bit at a time to phase them out. It became difficult getting chimps because they were now endangered. We wanted a new exhibit. I have to say the cat collection was phased out first. That was easy because the trainer had a whip, a gun. The animals were trained with force and the young aspiring zoologists really don’t like to put animals through unnatural behaviors using force, so that was an easy one to phase out. And Big Cat Country was the first outdoor natural environment cage we were able to build.
