Well for one thing, Marlin always said. First of all, he loved animals and he wanted everybody else to love and appreciate animals as much as he did. And he felt that the best way he could do that was to make them very familiar. So he encouraged all of us to learn as much as we could and to share that knowledge and that we should speak and speak in an eloquent way that people could understand us, not to speak over the head but don’t speak under their ability and give ’em as much possible. I think he was a little bit of a ham and I think the people that have a little ham in ’em make the best public relations representatives for the zoo. Particularly if they’re a director or member of the curator staff, they have to have that awareness of how to deal with the public. It was very important.