Most of the employees were city employees. But it was a good place to work because you had enough layers of people to do the grunt work, and I didn’t have to bother with a lot of the nitty-gritty that I did in Cincinnati. Cincinnati I had to watch the bottom line and all the lines in between, and I was responsible to the board president. And we’d have meetings, he’d want to know and I’d own up, I’d own up on everything, and he’d always invariably ask the question that I was not familiar with. So that happened. What kind of presence did the zoo- You mentioned the many days with the gorillas and the public relations.