They meant to our zoo, they meant bongo, they meant okapi, they meant Sumatran rhino. We were a zoo that had no money and they were a good financial resource and they were great to turn the turnstiles. We had some banner years the first years when we exhibited white tigers and we depended on, at that time, with no city support, we depended on our gate to keep us open and to keep the ability to improve the zoo. Everything that we derived from them went back in either to the collection or the zoo itself. You’ve been called a collector of species.