Well, when I retired, I spent- I was not retired a year I accepted a interim position in Los Angeles for 13 months. That led to an interesting situation where we began to- I was approached by La Sierra University to do some work consulting on a possible museum of natural history they were gonna develop in Palm Springs. It was gonna be an additional institution away from the campus. And they brought me on board. I was involved with that for five years. I’ve also been doing some work, we’ve been doing some work in Chile. My son-in-law is the director of collections at the zoo, and he’s been working with rockhopper penguins and working on a island reserve right off of Punta Arenas. It’s called Isla Noir, it’s not a protected zone, and yet it’s a very big nesting zone for rockhopper and Magellanic penguins.
