There are comparisons- If I were to compare the AAZAP with the AZA today, it would be a night and day issue. The early years, when we were associated with parks, we would come into meetings, we were a small group of directors and few curators, not very many curators, and we would discuss issues of, zoo issues, common issues, and it was a lot of camaraderie and it was not a very effective organization actually. It accomplished very little other than amongst ourselves. The AZA today is a very complex organization, made up of many components that are necessary for a modern zoo to operate. Modern zoos have evolved to keep up with the paces of society. And so the AZA has had to change according to meet those needs.