Like whenever there’s a major change in a organization, when we were part of the American Zoos and Parks, we were part of a larger organization, we were a small element and obviously were a lot of people in our business. I was a youngster at that time coming into the business, but some of the older guys were definitely not interested in being a part of a grander thing and thought we were significant enough that we should have our own organization. In other words, there were so many things about zoo work that were different than parks, you know, that had different requirements than just being plunked in as a park. So eventually there was a breakaway. Not all were in favor of it. I remember there were a number of early, or some of the older directors that were actually frightened of the idea of us going off on our own, but we had what they called at that time, the young Turks and they were the rebels.
