Although, I must say in LA, there were a lot of concerned keepers. I had a marvelous keeper staff in LA. I really enjoyed working there. That was an entirely different experience in my lifetime. It was working for a public institution that had society support. The problem was the society and the city people didn’t speak to each other and that’s not the way you raise money. So I was able to get them working together, and I think, as I understand, they’re still working closely even today many years later. I remember Gretchen Wyler, she was a Broadway actress and she would march across the front of my desk.