Her name was Betsy Dresser. Eventually she got her PhD and she was a reproductive physiologist, and she badly wanted to work in zoos and she badly wanted to work in the Cincinnati Zoo. And she thought there would be great application for reproductive science in zoo animals, that we could accelerate the reproduction of endangered species. So I took a gamble on Betsy, I hired her and she worked out of a little broom closet, I remember, at the old animal hospital. It was a tiny little room and she started to do some remarkable things. And eventually she was able to glean some great community support. A couple of board members thought what she was doing was very impressive and they wrapped their arms around the project, and then we got a very wealthy person in Cincinnati, a gentleman by the name of Carl Lindner. And Carl was able to understand the purpose and understand its importance, and he devoted a sizable amount of money for a new research facility, the lead gift.