Conservation in the zoo field is a- it’s a hot word today. One day, I remember I had five staff members and I asked five staff the members to define conservation. All I was hearing was conservation, conservation. Define it for me. Well, four did and the other one didn’t, and all four were different explanations of conservation or different definitions. I believe in today’s world, we’ve got three, as I see, three major issues we have to resolve if we’re gonna deal with animal conservation at all, and they’re all critical. When I started in my profession, the human population was around two and a half billion and population biologists predicted when I retired, the human population would be around 5 billion. Well, my retirement data was closer to six, so those predictions were on target if not beyond.