Well, I followed in that- My zoo career started by me following an ad in the Chicago Sun-Times. There was an ad in the paper, there was a job open if you were not too choosy, and it was a job opening at the reptile house at the Lincoln Park Zoo. So I applied for this job and I had an interview with Marlin, I was hired and somewhere down the line, Marlin called me. Little did I realize that there was more politics involved in the Chicago operation, and apparently I did not have a powerful enough source, and I was told that the job was given to somebody else instead. So I went back and I did some research and my dad knew certain people and finally got in touch with the alderman and we wound up back at the Lincoln Park Zoo, and I was given a job, but it wasn’t at the reptile house. It was at the Veldt at that time, it was a job opening working with hooved animals. And I worked in Lincoln Park for a number of years.