There are so many layers of discussion, approval, non-approval, justification, all of those words that we all have those layers that we learn and that it’s almost self-limiting. And the association is finally beginning to realize that there’s a real problem. And there also is a real problem about having sustainable numbers of animals in captivity for zoos to actually be zoos, because they’re no longer available from the wild. And in some cases we’ve done a very poor job of managing the animals that we originally had, who refer back to our earlier comments about juror or Asiatic lions and how it was not a problem. And now it’s a problem because they haven’t been managed. And this vein of people cooperating and trying to do the best for wildlife.
