And one of my additional incentives when I got the PhD was certainly now you’re going to teach, you’re going to teach and do research at a different level. And so having that university affiliation gave me an opportunity I otherwise wouldn’t have had, and I didn’t lose anything in the profession. I was still treated as if I was still in a profession by my colleagues across the country and across the world. So it was a win for me. During this time as director of animal collections, you were still active in AZA. Yes.
