Yeah, Growing up, I, from the earliest memories, I was fascinated, I mean, really fascinated with animals. I mean, I, I wanted to be around them. I wanted to hold them and, and just seeing them gave me a thrill. And my mother used to walk my, I had two sisters that we had a birth interval spacing of four years between us. So I had my sister Carol was born four years after me. And then Janet was born four years after Carol. And we, where were we before I added that little, We were talking about if animals were part of your life, Animals were part of their life. Yeah. So yeah, my mother used to walk Carol and me to the beach, ocean beach and the sea, the cliff house.