Well, from the standpoint of conservation importance, I would say those Hawaiian birds, the Guam rails, Bali mynahs were important ones from, in terms of my personal interest, I found the binturongs very interesting. And we bred them and we wrote some papers about their biology. One of our interns wrote a paper about teat Hierarchies in ONGs that they have their own teat on Mom and they don’t deviate from it. That was something that Griff Ewer had described in cats years earlier. Interesting behavioral observation. The clouded leopards, a lot of people got excited about Joe Gale Howard, who was down at the zoo was keen on that. Larry was very keen on it. So I mean, I was, I got very interested in Hoofstock at that stage of the game at Brookfield.
