Well, engagement is one of them. I think engagement, personal engagement with another per another individual, a spokesperson for the zoo or a spec specialist that knows that species and can tell you what’s going on. I think that is a, that’s a key way of getting the message across to the public. Not everybody reads signs or is interested in reading signs and audio cassette recordings or audio record recordings of what’s going on. That can mean people like to, you know, get the message that way sometimes. But I think direct interaction with keepers and, and people who are knowledgeable about the animals can be very good if they, you know, they do that in the National park. You know, we all sing Smokey the Bear together, you know, after toasting marshmallows and everybody feels good and, you know, you’d get some bonding going on. That sort of thing I don’t think can hurt.