Well, Larry dealt with that for the mammals and he had a set of relationships and we got animals in to keep the genetic lines separate and we shipped animals out to other institutions. Deborah was working with the GTS and she, that was all worked out on her side of the zoo. So, and then the black-footed ferret reintroduction program in Scot’s, Hawaiian bird studies, all that was to, to develop basic tech technology for captive husbandry and management. The bird stuff was for the Pacific Island birds. And Another, another aspect of seus is does euthanizing of endangered species that could be surplus genetic issues still pose a political problem for seus. And of course I think it probably always will. Why General public? They don’t like it. I mean, you know, when we had that, I was basically the bad guy after that, you know, because zoo people aren’t supposed to kill animals. Well the public doesn’t know that. Sometimes you have to make hard decisions and sometimes things happen.
