I, I was, this is something I was not good at. I was taught from a very young age not to ask for things, not to ask for. Asking for money to me was anathema. I just didn’t know how to do it, didn’t feel right about doing it. I was not the guy that could do the ask. And so, but we did have fundraisers working for the institution. I could certainly take people around and show them what we were doing and explaining things to them. But I, I was not the guy who could cultivate somebody with, you might call an ulterior motive to get money for the organization.
