I had dead specimens pinned, and then I had live animals. And then we took ’em out with flashlights and we found the calling ones because, and I’m sure it’s the same here in the summertime when you go out in the woods, it’s just a racket of Katy did his calling. And so I went out and I knew where the, the different species were. And so we could identify sp and the kids were just, and the par everybody, you know, we’d get up to ’em with the flashlight real close and they could see ’em singing. It was like, I never knew they looked like that. So it opened their eyes to something they had never thought about before. And the only reason I knew anything about it was that I had a very close friend who was a specialist in it. And then we did another one that was called the Spring Pee Fest.
