And at the time I got, I had a friend who became an entomologist and became an Australian citizen, became famous in Australia studying ortho opera. So Katie did crickets and that sort of thing. So I had made a collection of ka dig and crickets as a recreational activity towards the last few years of my career. So I had this great big collection of all the species that occurred in on, on the, the property. And so we had one evening that was called Songs of the Summer Night. And we had these kids come out and they, all the programs were like this with their parents and grandparents. And then I or somebody else would talk about crickets, the relationship of calling rate to temperature, air temperature, and their use is food and the, the widespread use of ululation to communicate sound production and all that sort of stuff. And we had specimens there.
