And it was like a feeding trough for the frogs. So they would come up to get fed. And I was just fascinated and amazed and highly entertained by seeing this kind of research going and meeting this character who was this wizard at electronics or at electrical circuitry and mechanics, you know. But he said the problem was, and this is where the biology came into it, is that a frog will not swallow a ball of hamburger unless it moves. So when they eat an insect, they expect the legs or the wings to be moving. They said they’d spit it out. Now, I don’t know if that’s the be all, end all of the story or if there’s more to it in terms of subsequent research, but it was just interesting as hell. And those are the kind of people that I found in Chicago.