I was used to that having grown up in San Francisco, I remember there was one guy, this was a friend of George’s. I mean George knew everybody in Chicago, all the scientists down the museum. He had long standing relationships with them. And for some reason we went over to one of the universities in Chicago and there was this guy that was doing neurological invest experiments with frogs. I don’t know if they were bull frogs or what they were. And he had this wizard who worked for him who was, did mechanical stuff. He worked with Little Motors and things like that. And he had this bench that was probably the size of this table.
