Ald, who is a, a French lady who, who had survived the war as a child and had immigrated to the US And she was his bio technician, a very nice lady. She was like a second mother to me. After several years I got to like her very much on him and very kind person. But anyway, or introduced me to the collections. And he would let me go into the collections and look at specimens. And through junior high school and high school, I would go to the academy every Friday afternoon and he would talk to me for about five minutes, 10 minutes at most.
