But, but she went to our staff meetings and she never had anything to say at the staff meetings that, that dealt with larger pictures of, of management and, you know, zoo issues. She just didn’t have, she, I always got the impression she wanted to get back and be working with the animals. So when she was chosen, it was like, wow, I wonder how that happened. So Lucy became the director, and, and then not too long after that, I can’t tell you how long it was, Lucy, I was having a meeting one day at the center, and she called up and we were just breaking up in the meeting. I said, let me just take this call. ’cause I, or it was from Lucy and she was then the director, and she, she told me that the decision had been made and made that they were gonna close the center down. I was like, what? You know, I’ve been here for almost three decades and now the center is no longer relevant to the zoo or the Smithsonian.
