That kind of evolved in the zoo with, through Mitch Bush’s operation. He and Dave Wilt and Steve O’Brien were cooperating on that research, going to Africa and doing the cheetah work. Found out that Cheetahs had very low genetic diversity. And you know, AIDS research was involved in that. I mean, they made some, I, I can’t give you the details, but it was major breakthroughs in understanding the evolution of cheetahs and their genetics. So, so anyway, all that happened that came to roost at the center. People then Wilt wanted to be at the center, so he was transferred out there. We, you know, so the place kind of grew and there was always a dynamic tension between DZR, ’cause Deborah was in charge of research, but we were doing research kind of independently of her.